UK time is: 18:13:39
Vital Login
Social Login

Choose your club

Other Sites

Network Navigation

Vital Partners

'If It's Football, It's Vital'

RUFC - Banter or Abuse?

Dave Jones, Cardiff City manager, clashed with Stoke fans at the weekend when his team lost 2-1.
It all started when reserve team manager, Paul Wilkinson, became involved in a row with a ball boy after the 'multi-balling system' suddenly seemed to stop.
Jones said, 'I've always had abuse when I've gone to Stoke. They say it's banter but it's not banter when people are hurling abuse at you. They think it's funny until you turn round and say something back then it's a different matter.
'The Police were brilliant and they were taking pictures of the fans involved and I think those fans should be dealt with.'

It's been happening quite a bit this season the abuse of managers being spoken about in the media. Sam Allardyce, when at Newcastle, perhaps being the most publicised and he admitted that he'd 'lost the fans' but the abuse 'didn't bother him.'
Portsmouth manager, Harry Rednapp, however had a different view when he was verbally abused by Villa fans earlier this season. He told the press that 'you've got people saying stuff behind you who have little kids with them. I used to watch Arsenal with my dad when I was younger and there was none of that going on. Maybe I shouldn't get upset but I do and what hurts more is when I see someone going at it and they have their young son by their side. That just stinks.'

Apart from sport, I can't think of many other jobs where managers would come in for this sort of abuse.

I don't think you will ever stop abuse being hurled from the stands of football games and I think we have come to accept it - but is that right? And where will it stop?

My house backs onto fields that are rented out at weekends for local football games. I often hear bad language on a Sunday morning coming from that direction, and I'm no prude and it doesn't particularly bother me. But one day recently I went to watch one of the games for a while and the language from the supporters on the touchline was, frankly, appalling. It was made worse, for me, because the children who were playing were around ten years old and the 'filth', as Harry Rednapp called it, was coming from their parents.

This isn't meant to preach at anyone, I understand only too well the frustration that football brings out in us fans!
Sam Allardyce said it 'didn't bother him', Harry Rednapp says he was 'appalled' and Dave Jones thinks 'the police should deal with it.' So, is it abuse or merely just banter?




Use your social login to comment on front page articles. Login using you Facebook, Twitter, Google or LinkedIn accounts and have your say!

The Journalist

Writer: Herringthorpe  Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday February 5 2008

Time: 10:17AM

Your Comments (oldest first)

Change to most recent first
sometimes it does go too far and should be dealt with by the clubs
Mexbro miller
Report Abuse
05/02/2008 10:29:00

But how will the clubs find out about it without someone telling them? And I can't see anyone wanting to do that - unless the club put people in the crowd specifically for that
herringthorpe
Report Abuse
05/02/2008 10:34:00

It starts off as banter, and then changes to abuse, I don't like it. Re the kids playing. I won't stand with the parents at my grandsons games, when they are shouting at their kids. I go and stand behind the goal on my own, and encourage them!
rybel_b
Report Abuse
05/02/2008 15:33:00

That's it isn't it - we need to encourage them not swear and abuse them!
herringthorpe
Report Abuse
05/02/2008 15:35:00

it turns into abuse when it gets personnel and is aimed at family members i do not think calling a manager a to55er for making a bad decision abuse
miller4life
Report Abuse
05/02/2008 20:41:00

there is a fine line and unfortunatly some people like to cross it
Mexbro miller
Report Abuse
06/02/2008 11:14:00

yep i agree mex and those sort of people have no place in sport if thats all they have to do at a sporting fixture
miller4life
Report Abuse
06/02/2008 22:01:00

 

Have Your Say

Log in...
with your social network     OR     with your Vital account

Recent Rotherham United Articles

RUFC - On This Day - 25 January (Sunday January 25 2015)

RUFC - Skarz Signs For U's (Saturday January 24 2015)

RUFC - Chairman 'We're Still Learning' (Saturday January 24 2015)

RUFC - Scrap FA Cup Replays? Yes Or No? (Saturday January 24 2015)

RUFC - Chairman Looking To The Future (Friday January 23 2015)

RUFC - Gaffer On Skarz Departure (Friday January 23 2015)

RUFC - Skarz Leaves Millers (Friday January 23 2015)

Archived Rotherham United Articles

List All Vital Rotherham Articles
Have your say
Click here to suggest an article
Click here to suggest a poll

Vital Members League (view all)

1. rybel_b 1193
2. herringthorpe 1054
3. sixpence 460
4. mos60 47
5. miller4life 25
6. Millie Miller 23
7. axholme 17
8. mvmiller 16
9. nogginthenog 13
10. sthelensmiller 8

League Results (view all)

League Table (view table)

Team P W D L GD Pts
18. Reading 26 8 6 12 -11 30
19. Brighton 27 6 11 10 -5 29
20. Leeds Utd 26 6 8 12 -11 26
21. Rotherham 26 5 11 10 -12 26
22. Millwall 26 5 8 13 -19 23
23. Wigan 27 4 9 14 -10 21
24. Blackpool 26 3 7 16 -29 16

Breaking League News

Powell - Everyone Deserves Praise
Huddersfield : 25/01/2015 18:01:00
Boss reflects on good second half
Reading : 25/01/2015 17:59:00
Bent Hoping He Impressed
Derby County : 25/01/2015 17:24:00
Experimental Day Pays Off For McClaren
Derby County : 25/01/2015 17:15:00
Mattock Seeks First-Team Return
Sheff Wed : 25/01/2015 16:58:00

Current Site Poll (view all polls)

Should FA Cup Replays Be Scrapped?
Suggested By:  
Yes 34%
No 50%
Not Sure 16%