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RUFC - Banter or Abuse?

RUFC - Banter or Abuse?

Dave Jones, Cardiff City manager, clashed with Stoke fans at the weekend when his team lost 2-1.
It all started when reserve team manager, Paul Wilkinson, became involved in a row with a ball boy after the 'multi-balling system' suddenly seemed to stop.
Jones said, 'I've always had abuse when I've gone to Stoke. They say it's banter but it's not banter when people are hurling abuse at you. They think it's funny until you turn round and say something back then it's a different matter.
'The Police were brilliant and they were taking pictures of the fans involved and I think those fans should be dealt with.'

It's been happening quite a bit this season the abuse of managers being spoken about in the media. Sam Allardyce, when at Newcastle, perhaps being the most publicised and he admitted that he'd 'lost the fans' but the abuse 'didn't bother him.'
Portsmouth manager, Harry Rednapp, however had a different view when he was verbally abused by Villa fans earlier this season. He told the press that 'you've got people saying stuff behind you who have little kids with them. I used to watch Arsenal with my dad when I was younger and there was none of that going on. Maybe I shouldn't get upset but I do and what hurts more is when I see someone going at it and they have their young son by their side. That just stinks.'

Apart from sport, I can't think of many other jobs where managers would come in for this sort of abuse.

I don't think you will ever stop abuse being hurled from the stands of football games and I think we have come to accept it - but is that right? And where will it stop?

My house backs onto fields that are rented out at weekends for local football games. I often hear bad language on a Sunday morning coming from that direction, and I'm no prude and it doesn't particularly bother me. But one day recently I went to watch one of the games for a while and the language from the supporters on the touchline was, frankly, appalling. It was made worse, for me, because the children who were playing were around ten years old and the 'filth', as Harry Rednapp called it, was coming from their parents.

This isn't meant to preach at anyone, I understand only too well the frustration that football brings out in us fans!
Sam Allardyce said it 'didn't bother him', Harry Rednapp says he was 'appalled' and Dave Jones thinks 'the police should deal with it.' So, is it abuse or merely just banter?

Date:Tuesday February 5 2008
Time: 10:17AM


sometimes it does go too far and should be dealt with by the clubs
Mexbro miller
05/02/2008 10:29:00
But how will the clubs find out about it without someone telling them? And I can't see anyone wanting to do that - unless the club put people in the crowd specifically for that
05/02/2008 10:34:00
It starts off as banter, and then changes to abuse, I don't like it. Re the kids playing. I won't stand with the parents at my grandsons games, when they are shouting at their kids. I go and stand behind the goal on my own, and encourage them!
05/02/2008 15:33:00
That's it isn't it - we need to encourage them not swear and abuse them!
05/02/2008 15:35:00
it turns into abuse when it gets personnel and is aimed at family members i do not think calling a manager a to55er for making a bad decision abuse
05/02/2008 20:41:00
there is a fine line and unfortunatly some people like to cross it
Mexbro miller
06/02/2008 11:14:00
yep i agree mex and those sort of people have no place in sport if thats all they have to do at a sporting fixture
06/02/2008 22:01:00
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